Episode #163: Body Image Series: How to Stop Caring About What Others Think (a.k.a. overcoming fear of judgment)

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INTRO: This is Fearless Rebelle Radio, a podcast about body positivity, self-worth, anti-dieting, and Feminism. I am your host, Summer Innanen, a professionally trained coach specialising in body image, self-worth, and confidence, and the best-selling author of Body Image Remix. If you’re ready to break free of societal standards and stop living behind the number on your scale, then you have come to the right place! Welcome to the show.

This is Episode 163 of Fearless Rebelle Radio, and it’s episode number 6 in the Body Image Series, and I’m talking about how to stop caring so much about what other people think, AKA overcoming fear of judgment. Specifically, we’re diving into why we’re so afraid of judgment, what this can teach us about ourselves, and seven ways to work through the fear of what other people are thinking .

And if you want to take things deeper, I’ve created a free worksheet, “Five Ways to Navigate Social Situations When Feeling Self-Conscious.” This gives you five tips or actions that you can take to just feel a little more confident in who you are, before you head out to a social situation. You can find that, and the other links mentioned in this episode, at summerinnanen.com/163.

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And, big news, because of the popularity of the Body Images Series, I decided to put these episodes into transcripts, so they have been transcribed, or are in the process of being transcribed. At the time of this recording, episodes 158, 159, 160 are all transcribed. Those are the ones on how to feel better in your body, the relationship between body image and intuitive eating, and the one on believing you’re good enough.

In addition, I have also had episode 83, Why Diets Don’t Work, transcribed. So this is super-helpful if you’re trying to share this information with a friend, or you’re trying to articulate it yourself, that episode is really important. I link back to it all the time, because it’s got some really important information on why diets don’t work and the relationship between weight and health and setpoint theory, all that stuff. How to heal the diet-binge cycle. And so, I wanted to make sure that that episode was transcribed. So you can get that at summerinnanen.com/83, or you can look it up online, just put “why diets don’t work Summer Innanen.”

And also had episode 96 transcribed, which is How to Work Through Moments of Body Shame, which is another really important one that could probably be in this series, but I had recorded it before, so that kind of sits as a standalone from way back in the day. And I again wanted to have that one transcribed. So, good news there.

This is not going to be an ongoing thing, I’m not going to do all the interviews, nor will I be able to do future interviews at this time. I’m hoping that I can. It’s just a matter of resources, because this podcast costs money to produce and so do the transcriptions and as of now, we don’t have advertisers for this show, because I haven’t had a chance to reach out to people. Anyways, that’s not the point of that statement. Anyways, I wanted to get those transcriptions up, and they are there, so you just go to the episode’s blog post and scroll down to the bottom of the page, and that’s where you’ll find the transcriptions for those.

Okay. In today’s episode, we’re talking about overcoming fear of judgement, how to stop caring so much about what other people think. And this is most likely going to be the final episode in the Body Image Series. I may be able to squeak one more in. If not, it’ll be something that I do in the future. I’ll do like a reboot of the Body Image Series and do some more episodes, because I’ve got some other stuff that’s scheduled to be released, including the Spotlight Episode, with the interviews of graduates of the You On Fire program, which is going to be opening up for enrollment again in April 2020. And if you’re hearing this at a totally different time, then you can always just go to summerinnanen.com/youonfire to find out when the next cycle’s going to be and get your name on the waitlist.

In any event, we’re talking about overcoming fear of judgment today because it’s a really important topic, and I feel like it kind of rounds out a lot of what we’ve been talking about, because we’ve been talking about fear being a big thing that kind of holds us back from really letting go of our attachment to the thin ideal and really being able to just feel more neutral in our body. And so I think we all experience this one. So let’s say you’re going out with friends you haven’t seen in awhile, and you start to freak out about how you’re going to feel when you’re around them. Perhaps they’re in smaller bodies, or they seem to just have their shit together better than you, or you feel like your body has changed and you’re afraid they’re going to notice.

So instead of enjoying the night out, you spend the entire time berating yourself in your head or feeling self-conscious. I think all of us can relate to this at some point and time, if not presently. Versus, just being relaxed and present and enjoying their company. Wouldn’t it be so awesome to just be able to go out with your friends and be present and enjoy their company and not be in your head?

I’m telling you, that is possible, and that’s what this episode is about, but I see that fear of judgment, that fear of what other people are going to think as being one of the biggest things that holds us back from really living our lives and taking up space, and doing the things we want to do. I see it hold people back from dating, from going after promotions, from getting in the pool with their kids, from taking the class they want to take, from speaking their mind, which we definitely need more people, not white men, to speak their mind.

And the reason I put this in the Body Image Series is because this fear drives so many of the other negative thoughts that we have about our body. This fear keeps us small, and it keeps us from taking up space. And this is why I wanted it to have its own episode, and let you know that you’re not alone if you struggle with this. I find it especially prominent once you’ve stopped dieting, because you kind of feel like the black sheep. Or if your body has changed in some way, you feel like people are going to notice, and you’re afraid, and because we’ve been trained to be likable, but I’m going to talk about that more in a sec.

So in this episode, what we’re going to get to is why we fear judgment, what these moments can teach us about ourselves, and seven specific ways to overcome that fear of what other people are thinking. And I created a free worksheet: “Five Ways to Navigate Social Situations When Feeling Self-Conscious,” and it’s got five steps you can take, or you can pick and choose, you don’t have to use them all at once, although it might be a good idea to help get you through those moments where you’re about to go out and meet friends and you’re starting to freak out.

So let’s talk about why we fear judgment, or why we’re so afraid of what other people are going to think. As I talked about in the last episode, Episode 162: Overcoming Comparisons, we are conditioned to evaluate ourselves. So, as much as we think to ourselves, “How do I measure up?”` we think other people are looking at us and evaluating us too, and the reality is that some people probably are, unfortunately, with things like fatphobia and racism and ageism and all of those other isms, many people haven’t done work to challenge their internal biases, and for some people, these are even just unconscious. I wish I could tell you that nobody is going to judge you, but I can’t. I really can’t, because I just don’t know and because I see these things happening.

Instead, what I want to encourage you to do, what I want to teach my clients to do, is to be comfortable with people not liking you or understanding you. To get comfortable with that, so that it doesn’t inhibit you from speaking your mind and doing the things that you want to do.

And so now, I understand, with that said, that for some people, this can be a matter of safety, especially those in marginalized bodies who experience overt forms of harm and other microaggressions going about their everyday lives. So I’m certainly not saying that in those situations, that you need to be comfortable with that.

But what I can say is that doing the work here is helpful no matter what, so that you can be better equipped to support yourself and work through those tough moments, where our sense of worthiness is shaken.

We can give way less fucks what other people think, and still give many fucks to social oppressions and do whatever we can to help change our culture.

So with that being said, let’s talk about where fear of judgement comes from. So we’ve been conditioned to kind of look at ourselves and think, how do we measure up? And therefore think other people are thinking that, and it really just comes from our culture. We’ve learned that if we don’t fit into the box of society’s standards, we are less than, and therefore, inadequate.

And that gets amplified by experiences that we have. So, a lot of that stuff that we experienced when we were kids, let’s say you were bullied, or someone criticized your body, or you felt left out in a situation. Our brain starts to do everything it can to protect us from experiencing the kind of pain that went along with that type of experience.

So for example, if someone made fun of you as a kid, and you felt really ashamed, your brain doesn’t want you to feel that shame anymore. So it creates this voice of fear, it feeds this voice of fear, and makes you fear what other people are thinking. It’s really a protective mechanism that unfortunately often evolves into that negative voice in our head that tells us that we’re not good enough, or that we shouldn’t speak up, or that no one will like us, or that people are going to be judging us.

So the voice is really trying to protect us, but it’s going to keep our lives small, and keep us feeling bad about ourselves, if we listen to it and take its advice. So as much as it may be telling you, “Oh, your friends are going to think that you let yourself go, people are going to be judging you.” It’s really trying to protect you from experiencing pain of actually living through that experience, but it’s not helpful, and it’s not helpful to stay small and not live our lives, and not show up and do the things we want to do.

So it can sometimes be helpful to reflect on our past, and the experiences that we’ve had that shaped our fears in order to get in touch with what we really need to heal. Might be helpful to kind of reflect on some of those moments that shaped this fear of what other people are thinking.

Another thing I just want to mention here, in terms of why we fear judgment, is that we’ve been conditioned to be likable as women. Our survival depended upon being likable, so it’s really in our DNA to be that way, and then it’s also conditioned through our culture. We’re not supposed to rock the boat or be different.

If we speak our mind, we’re considered emotional, or irrational, or bitchy. We’re taught to conform, and put other people’s needs above our own. We’re told we have to sort of fall in line and be quiet and be small. So the idea of someone not liking us can be a traumatic thought.

And I personally really benefit from understanding this perspective and why we do the things we do, because when I see it that way, when I’m like, “Oh, we’ve been conditioned to be likable! We have been conditioned to be people-pleasers and all these other things, and that’s why we are afraid of what other people are going to think if we stand our grand, if we set the boundary, if we ask for help, and all these other things.”

It can help to really fight back against it, and move through that fear. So that’s why I wanted to give you that perspective on why we fear judgment, why we are afraid of what other people might be thinking about us, and why it’s not your fault that you feel this way.

So let’s talk about what these moments can teach us about ourselves. So if you are afraid of being judged in a situation, it can give you good information on where your sense of worthiness stems from. So let’s say you’re worried about going to see a friend you haven’t seen in awhile because you’ve gained some weight and you’re afraid that they’re going to judge you for that. We can use that moment to dive in and learn about what this means about ourselves, and our sense of worth.

Perhaps in this case, our worthiness is tied to our body size, or what other people think of us, or falling in line with this idea of being the perfect woman, whatever that is for you. We can use that information, and once we have that information, we can start to acknowledge, “Oh, okay, this is why I feel this way,” and we can start to change those things.

Another example, I’ll give you an example for me. I might avoid posting something I might want to say on social media, because I’m afraid of people not liking me, or I’m afraid of being perceived as unintelligent. And so my sense of worthiness maybe comes from other people’s approvals, or my own perception of my intelligence, and so, this is partially true, by the way, me sharing this example about myself.

So we can use that information to begin working on changing those beliefs and detaching our worth from those external measures. And so another thing I wanted to mention here is that often when we’re afraid of what other people are thinking, it’s because the idea of that experience is going to assert a negative belief we have about ourselves.

So for example, if I, deep down inside, kind of think, “well, I’m not very smart,” which I don’t think is true, but let’s just say that. If I deep down inside think, “I’m not very smart, or I’m unlovable, or I’m inadequate, or I’m unworthy,” then if I don’t post something on social media, then I don’t have to live through the experience of that thing being true. I mean, what if someone says to me, like, “Oh, Summer, you’re not very smart”? It’s safer for me to not kind of face that head-on, and so we avoid that situation because we don’t want to face what it could mean if we are judged.

And I know that kind of might make your brain spin a bit, it’s a little bit deep. In other words, our voice of fear is there again to try and protect us. So it’s trying to protect us from experiencing that pain and the pain would be quite great if it’s affirming something that we’re already really sensitive about. Yet, we’re not doing anything to change that belief by avoiding the situation.

And when we listen to our voice of fear, we end up strengthening it. That’s a really important point. The more we listen to that voice of fear, when it’s not a legitimately threatening situation, like, hey, don’t cross the street, because there’s a car there, we end up strengthening it. And it gets louder, and our comfort zone gets smaller the longer that we listen to it.

So the more that you avoid a situation that you’re afraid of doing, so let’s say you are afraid to go in the pool with your kid, because you’re afraid of what other people are going to think. The longer that you avoid doing that, the greater that fear becomes. It just becomes louder, your comfort zone gets smaller, and so we have to do the thing to work through it. And I’m getting ahead of myself here, but if we can identify what those beliefs are that are really stopping us, then we have the power to work through those moments.

So knowing what we’re afraid of, when it comes to fear of what other people are thinking, can give us information about how we’re measuring our own worth. Is it from other people liking us? Is it from approval of our intelligence? Is it from our desirability? This can help us to know what we need to do to heal.

Okay, the second thing that these moments can teach us, when we are afraid of judgment, is they can teach us about these beliefs that we have about ourselves that we need to work on changing, or work on really seeing how they’re negatively impacting our lives. So as a follow-up to the above, once we can get to where those sensitive spots are, and where our sense of worth is coming from, then we can start to work on changing the beliefs that we have about ourselves,and really strengthening this belief that we are good enough just as we are, that we’re worthy of taking up space, that what we have to say i important, and that we offer a lot of value by existing and participating in this world.

And so the third thing that it can give us information on, is it can give us information on what we value and what our values are. And I’m going to talk about this further down , but being judged or being afraid of what other people are going to think of you, or say, can help us tap into the things that we actually care about, and the things that we actually value, and that can make it easier for us to own our own individuality.

So instead of thinking, “Oh my gosh, someone doesn’t like me, it means I’m a bad person,” no, it’s about reframing it to, “Okay, someone doesn’t like me. We have different values.”

And so that is another really important piece of that. So we can look at our fear of judgment, and say, “What are all these really juicy things that we can learn about ourselves to work through them, instead of just being paralized by that fear?”

And maybe that’s just a coach’s perspective, which I am, always looking at things through that perspective. But hopefully, you feel the same way, if you’re listening to this podcast, because that’s what it’s about.

Okay, let’s talk about seven ways to not care so much about what other people think. Number one is to bring awareness to the negative thoughts, to the voice of fear. So just noticing what that voice of fear is telling you, noticing what you’re assuming and thinking about that situation. Notice what the story is. Is it that people are going to think that you’ve let yourself go? Is it that people are not going to like you? Is it that people are going to think that you’re not very smart?

This is an opportunity for you to tame your inner critic, you know, that critical voice in your head that makes you feel like nothing you do is ever good enough. This is an opportunity to start to change that narrative, and look at it, and think, “What assumptions am I making about this? What’s the story I’m telling myself here?” instead of just internalizing it as your own voice and getting so consumed by it and falling into that spiral that paralyzes you from taking action. Just bring awareness to it, and think, “Okay, this is the voice of fear, or this is the voice of my inner critic,” and look at it through that perspective.

Second tactic is to be curious about the beliefs that you’re having about yourself, the meaning that you’re attaching to that situation. So this is a chance to start to change that narrative. So if we are afraid to go to a party because we’re afraid that people are going to look at us, and be judging us, what are we believing about ourselves in that moment? What beliefs do we have that are holding us back from going and feeling comfortable with who we are?

This is a chance to start to change that narrative, and we have to be intentional about changing our thoughts. It’s not just something that flips like a switch or happens by reading books, it takes actively working on it. It’s like a muscle that needs to be worked in order to change those thoughts.

Number three is: know the things that you value, in yourself, and in life. So, in my group coaching program, You on Fire, we have an entire module called “Mastering the Art of Not Giving a Fuck,” which is all about detaching from people-pleaseing and not caring so much about wha tother people think, and it’s really focused around letting go of what other people think so we can take the focus off of how we look and just live our lives.

And one of the key exercises that we do in there is identifying our values. And you may hear that and think like, “Oh, I know my values, we did this at work at a corporate training.” Or “I’ve done one of those quizzes online.” That’s not how I approach it. This is a very different way of approaching it.

It’s about looking at what truly brings you fulfillment in your life and what lights you up. And what you truly give a fuck about. Because other people are going to value different things than you, and that is okay. But when we know what we value, it makes it so much easier to let go of what other people are thinking and not care so much if they don’t like us, or if they have a different opinion.

So as an example, I’m going to bring this back to something that will hopefully be quite relatable. When I initially quit dieting, my body changed, because it was healing, and I was nervous about seeing certain friends because I was afraid of what they would think. Prior to that, I was always talking about why gluten was the devil and how I wasn’t eating sugar, and my latest diet, and how I hated my body. That was what I brought to the conversation, which, you know, I sound like I’m really fun to hang out with. But somehow, my friends still love me.

Anyway, so after I had moved past that, my body had changed, I had gained weight, I wasn’t doing that anymore, and the reality was that I was working really hard to not value appearance anymore. The things that I had truly identified that were important to me were different, and appearance wasn’t included in that. Because having appearance included in that had really driven me down that road of never feeling good enough and being constantly fixated on how my body looked, and letting that dictate my every mood and action.

And so, I’m getting kind of off on a tangent there, but if when I went to see my friends that I hadn’t seen in awhile, I was afraid they were going to judge me. But if they were going to judge me, then that would’ve only given me information that they valued my appearance. And that’s not a shot against them, that’s just the way that perhaps they had been culturally programmed. They are entitled to have different values than me. But that really helped me to reframe it. It makes it so much easier to let that go.

So I can look at a situation and think, “Oh, these people over here are participating in diet culture, they value appearance, I don’t value that anymore. I don’t feel like so much of a black sheep, it’s just like, we have different values.”

And again, it’s not a shot against them that they’re still in that culture. We were all there, I was there, we were culturally programmed to be that way. But it can help to reframe it so that it’s not like, “Oh, they don’t like me as a person,” it’s just, we value different things.

So a similar example would be, let’s just say your friend got botox, and you start to think, “Geez, maybe I need to get botox.” And this feels really relatable to me, because I’m in my 40s and that’s I think when a lot of people start to get botox. You can stop and think about it in terms of your values, like, “Do I value appearance?”

And it’s totally okay if you do, I’m not shaming people forthat, but if you and I were working together, we’d be looking to identify things that you value that are not dependent on external factors, and things that will truly bring a sense of fulfillment to your life and are not dependent on your body size.

But you could look at that situation and use it to reframe it, so that it’s not like, “Oh, they must think I look really old, because I’m not getting Botox,” or “They’re judging me,” and it’s more like, “You know what? I have different values than them, and I am going to do what I want to do, and they’re going to do what they want to do, and we can still be friends, because we still have a ton of other things in common, and hopefully they value me for more than my appearance..”

But that’s a super helpful way of looking at this situation.

So the fourth thing I want to mention here is a quote from Tara Mohr, who was on Episode 147. It was actually a much earlier episode, but I did a reboot of it when I was on maternity leave, so you can find that on 147. And she was one of my mentors and I trained with her and took her facilitators’ training program and the quote is: “Criticism doesn’t give you information about yourself. It only gives you information about the other person.”

And so, that is another really helpful way of looking at judgment when we’re afraid of what other people are thinking. If we do receive judgment, if we do receive some form of criticism, it’s only giving you information about them. It gives you no information about you. And so you can use that reframe to help detach it and really look at the situation, and so for example, let’s say that you post something on social media and you get a bunch of people who don’t agree with you.

You can look at the situation and think, like, “Okay, they’re saying something about me, they think I’m a horrible person,” or you could look at it and think, “Whoa, what information does this give me about them? They have a different opinion on this. They might have a different political view or a different view about health and weight. Maybe they haven’t read Health at Every Size,” whatever it is that we’re saying the example is here, which I didn’t give a specific one, but just to say, you post something political on social media. You can look at it and say, “Okay, it gives me information about their political views, not about myself.”

So that is a super helpful reframe to work through judgmentes and fear of what other people are thinking.

So number five, this is a powerful question to ask yourself in the moment. I use this all the time. And this was something that Mara Glassel, who was on Episode 92, shared on her social media maybe a year ago. And it just really stuck with me ever since. And the question was: Who are you giving your power over to? Let’s just say that you are avoiding wearing your bathing suit to the beach. Who are you giving your power over to? Let’s say that you are not asking for the promotion that you want to go after. Who are you giving your power over to?

You know, when we make those choices, if we decide not to go to the beach, if we decide not to go for that promotion at work, who are we giving our power over to, and what would it look like to reclaim it and do the thing instead?

And I find that that simple question in that moment can kind of just shift things for me. And that’s why I wanted to share it here.

Number six, the sixth way to work through fear of judgment, is to actually do the thing you want to do. The more you do it, the easier it becomes, and the quieter the voice of fear gets. The more you hang out with the friends and go into the social situation, the more that you say the things that you want to say, the more that you set the boundaries, wear the outfits, attend the classes, the more that you do them, the quieter your voice of fear gets.

As I said, the more we avoid them, the louder our voice of fear gets. So the only real way to kind of stop caring about what other people are thinking, is to do the thing and then be super compassionate with yourself afterwards. So I’m not saying it’s guaranteed going to be an awesome outcome every time, because that would be a lie, but what I am saying is that we can become more confident by doing the thing and then being super compassionate with ourselves after.

And so, I think we have to really acknowledge that that voice of fear is trying to protect us, but it’s also going to keep us small and keep us from living the lives we want to live. So, say the thing, set the boundary, wear the clothes, do the thing. And I’m always pushing people to do that thing.

And number seven, final tactic that I want to leave with you in this episode, is to have a community or a friend or group of people who you know whole-heartedly don’t judge you. And who you can totally be yourself around. This is so important, and maybe it’s your partner, maybe it’s your best friend, maybe it’s your mom, just someone that you can be unapologetically you.

Have someone that can be your sounding board, and give you that place where you can be vulnerable and authentic, because the more that you can do that, the more comfortable you’ll be doing that around other people, and that’s why I love the group aspect of the You on Fire program, because it’s a completely non-judgmental group of people who totally get where you’re coming from, and it’s a place where people can be vulnerable and raw and just totally honest with themselves, and have other people support them and say like, “Yes, I feel that way too!” But having that is really important, because we don’t want to go at this stuff alone.

Doing it alone is really scary. Having community, having support, whether that’s in a free group that you’re in, or a person in your life, or doing a program that I have, just having something like that can really change things for you. Because when we feel like we are doing this stuff alone, when we don’t have the encouragement of someone to tell us, “You know, you’re good, just as you are, you can go out and do the thing that you want to do,” the voice of fear inside of ourselves just kind of gets louder, and we become really in our heads about stuff. And so, having a place to release that and having a place where we can just be ourselves is super important.

Okay, so those are the tactics that I wanted to give you in this episode, and I’ve created a free worksheet with five ways to navigate social situations when you feel self-conscious, and they’re five totally different ways than I’ve mentioned in this episode. They are more in-the-moment ways, so if you’re about to go out, and you’re starting to feel self-conscious, these are five things that you can do on the spot to help you work through that self-consciousness.

And if you want to take things deeper, then definitely check out my programs, check out my You on Fire program, which I said is going to be opening up for enrollment in April 2020. You can get details on that and get on the waitlist at summerinnanen.com/youonfire.

That is a program that is all about learning how to feel more neutral in your body, just accepting of your whole self, and being able to go out and live your life more confidently and do the things that you want to do, and go after the things that you want, without having that crushing voice of doubt or fear stopping you.

And so, I would love to do that with you, if you’ve enjoyed this Body Image Series, and you feel like this is speaking to you, then for sure, for sure, that program is going to be for you as well, because this just kind of scratches the surface of some of the things that we talk about, and then we go much deeper into, like, how to actually do these things in the program. And you have me to support you every step of the way!

Okay, so, you can get the freebie with this episode, “Five Ways to Work Through Social Situations when You Feel Self-Conscious,” at summerinnanen.com/163. And all the other links I mentioned in this episode.

Thank you so much for listening to this. I love that you have loved the Body Image Series, at least, that’s the feedback that I’ve been given. So I’m going with that. If you have other ideas for topics on this, definitely send me a DM or send me an email. I’d be curious to know what else you want me to talk about as it relates to this, and I will definitely do more episodes in the future, but for now, I want to leave you with this, and thank you so much for listening to this! And maybe I’ll do one more episode, I’m not totally sure if I will have time, but I will leave that in the air for today.

Okay, thank you so much for listening. Rock on.

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