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Summer:
This is eat the rules, a podcast about body image, self worth, anti dieting, and intersectional feminism. I am your host summer Innanen, a professionally trained coach specializing in body image, self worth and confidence, and the best selling author of body image remix. If you’re ready to break free of societal standards and stop living behind the number on your scale, then you have come to the right place. Welcome to the show.

This is episode 269. And I am joined by Danni amapancake Adams We are together with some of the past students of our body image coach certification program, talking about their experiences. We’re talking about how it impacted them both personally and professionally. You can find the links mentioned that summer innanen.com forward slash 269.

I’m joined here today again with Danni amapancake Adams, my co creator in the body image coach certification program. And we’re super excited to be talking to some of the past graduates from the I guess it was like our fall cohort from 2020 to some of the wonderful people that we got to work with and they’re going to be sharing a little bit about their story. Do you want to just reintroduce yourself for people who perhaps haven’t heard one of the other episodes that we’ve done together?

Danni:
All right, yeah, sure. Hey, everybody. My name is Danni Adams, also known as amapancake online. I am a body image coach. And then I guess now I’m in the tailor, but as a social media influencer, and I have enjoy. For the past two years, we’ve been working with trainers, therapists, dieticians, just folks who body image coaches, folks who really want to have an impact on people’s lives, who are struggling with their body image. It has been great to teach some of the courses. And I’m excited to hear from our students.

Summer:
Yes, and we have another cohort starting in fall in the fall. It actually started the first sessions actually on August 22. And so if you are a professional who wants to learn more about that you can go to body image coach certification.com enrollment is open now it opened on June 6, and you can get all the details or listen to some of the past episodes that we’ve done together, where we talk more about the specifics of the program. But today, we really wanted to catch up with some of the past guests. So let’s get started with the show. Hello, everybody, welcome. We’re so excited to have you here today. We’re gonna start out by doing some introductions. Christine, you want to go first? Sure.

Christine:
So I’m Christine de Philippus. And I help people feel good in their bodies in particularly helping them move their bodies. I own a fitness studio in the Philadelphia suburbs, where we do lots of music driven fitness classes like dance and bar and trampoline and bungee.

Kimiya:
Hello everyone. My name is Kimiya Tehrani. I am Intuitive Eating counselor and I am also body image coach and I help people to embrace themselves and their bodies. And I have clients. I have group coaching and also private sessions and help people to feel better in their bodies.

Summer:
Wonderful. Heidi.

Heidi:
Hi there. Yeah, my name is Heidi Rabbach. I’m a German Intuitive Eating counselor and help women make peace with food mainly through a different, even slightly detached perspective on their thoughts and how our brains work. And yeah, by extension, that also means helping them make peace with their bodies. And yeah, that’s the combination package.

Summer:
Yeah, beautiful.

Terri:
Hi, I’m Terri Bailey of Terry Bailey, creative healing and alternative therapies and my nonprofit to Queens Room. And we promote self care, healing and empowerment. We call it the laws of she

Summer:
wonderful. Arlisa.

Arlisa:
Hi. I work with women that have experienced domestic violence and narcissistic abuse and one of the aspects we generally need to heal after that kind of experience is body image, body image issues. So that’s how I work and your therapist. Right. I’m a therapist and a life coach. Yeah.

Summer:
Wonderful. Thank you so much, everybody. Well, one of the things that we wanted to start off talking about was Why did you sign up for this certification with Danny and I?

Terri
Well, I did because as a life coach and an empowerment coach, you We often have women who come to us who have body image issues. But we’re all and I struggle with those issues as well. So I thought getting the certification would help me better help the women who come to me for coaching, but also helped me walk through some of the issues I’m having with body image now that I’m closer to 60.

Summer:
Yeah, Christine, just go.

Christine:
Similarly, I have clients that struggle, I personally myself to have struggled with body image. And the fitness industry is just so riddled with toxic messaging and ridiculous standards. So I find that a lot of my clients have similar struggles to what I’ve gone through, and I wanted to be able to better assist them. Although I can provide a space that is neutral for all to work out, I really wasn’t sure how I could help someone other than just teaching them what I already know, which I felt wasn’t really a great way to approach it. And why I wanted to do the coaching in particular was being able to listen more being able to really help be a guide, rather than just giving them the my clients the information. So that’s particularly why I want to do take the coaching certification.

Summer:
Wonderful, Heidi, and then Kimiya.

Heidi:
Well, for me, it was irregular situation that I actually felt really helpless when I helped my clients make peace with food. And notice how much they’re struggling with the changes in their bodies that came with it or letting go of the illusion of the old body that they used to have 20 years ago. And yeah, that brought me to you, too. Yeah, just get some tools and find some concrete ways how I can help them better navigate the difficult area.

Summer:
Yeah, thank you for that, Kimiya.

Kimiya
I do I agree with Heidi, as an intuitive eating counselor, that there is a 10 principle to help people navigate their issues. But I think the root of all these things, is going to body image issue. And we have just one principle about body image. So I always thought that with my client, there is something missing, I should know more about this than I should be educated more about these matters. So to know more about the causation of these problems of even this disorder, eating or having eating disorder behaviors, all of them back to this body image. So that’s why I signed up for this certification.

Summer:
Yeah, thank you for that. Arlisa, did you want to add anything? Yeah,

Arlisa:
I was also in the fitness industry for 19 years as a teacher, and also like my family have these fitness standards. So I struggled personally, very much with my body image. And I suffered that very much alone by myself, I needed. And I wanted to learn from other people that work with body image, image issues, to understand myself and be able to hear openly other people and have a different, more open perspective.

Danni:
Thank you all for sharing. What’s unique about each of you sharing why you decided to take the certification course is that you are bringing your all different special backgrounds and expertise. But I would like to know, what has been the best part of the certification for you.

Terri:
For me getting some tools to help me process my issues with growing older in this body, you know, so struggling with weight on my life, making weight an issue. And then finally getting to a point where you know, I love being thick, and I thought my body was beautiful. And now I’m contending with, you know, the reality that my body has changed, my body shape has changed, and everything. So I needed those tools that those tools have helped me be able to process help my friends process, and also, you know, help me with my clients.

Christine:
I agree, I find that the tools that you’ve provided, really make it easy to assess the clients that we see on a regular basis and as well as ourselves. And I find that there are so many frameworks that I wasn’t aware of and all those resources and tools as well as all the other people that are in this cohort that we were in and just connecting and learning from each other not just summer and Danny who are phenomenal guides on this on this path, but everyone that’s in the community being able to share ideas and learn from each other’s experiences.

Arlisa:
For me, learning about this community and belonging, like being able to be part of this community where we can talk about these issues that have I always felt ashamed of having body image issues. So being able to speak about it freely here, for the first time in my life basically.

Heidi:
Well, I also love the wide range of women attending that are everywhere on the weight spectrum body shape spectrum, and hearing the different perspectives of how it impacts like the body shape impact some more than others in different ways. And I found this incredibly enriching experience to see that in a women the struggle with body image, and larger women struggle with body image. And at the core, we’re all the same, feeling insecure of what we look like, and how the world perceives us. And I felt an incredible connection through this with everyone that innocence. And I think it’s probably true for most women in the world. In essence, this is what connects us that we’re all, we’ve all been taught to feel shame, or not good enough, on the basis of what our bodies look like,

Kimiya:
professionally, sometimes I hadn’t so much confidence about some of my approach, then, therefore, was a challenging issue. Some times I didn’t really know how to navigate that. Before the certification, it was a little bit scary for me when it was a very big issue about something that related to body image, but after your certification, I was more convinced that the path is correct. And I know some of the tools that you taught us, and you both help us to know how to navigate each, each kind of issues. So that was really helpful to me,

Summer:
thank you all so much for sharing all of that. I think one, there’s, you know, a couple of themes that really come out of this is that it’s it’s helped you both professionally, and personally, which I think a lot of people kind of come into this work thinking, I can’t do this, because I’m still struggling with my own stuff. But you know, what I’m hearing from all of you is that and what I know to be true, because I was in we were in class with you, it’s just that, you know, it’s really a universal thing that most of us still likely struggle with on some level. And, you know, learning how to help others can really be healing for ourselves in that process. Because we’re, we’re applying the same tools to ourselves. But I want to tease those things out a little bit and talk about the impact that it’s made on you professionally. So what’s it like for you professionally, now that you have this knowledge and these tools

Chritine:
Summer, it’s interesting that you even said that some that we’re all still struggling and everything because I think that’s what came to my mind professionally, like it made me realize that even though I’m still struggling, it’s important to continue to share my story and listen to other people’s story and really just be open to sharing and getting more comfortable with the discomfort, because that’s what’s going to bring about some changes in our, in my my personal mindset, I feel like just professionally, I have the confidence now to speak on this subject more. And also, it gives my clients the confidence that they can then share and feel ready and open to be vulnerable. And then to do the work because it has work to in this area to be able to then improve their own relationship with with their body.

Terri:
Well, and for me to that whole process of being transparent with your clients, because many times people come in, they say, well, Terry, you don’t worry about your weight, and you move through the world with competence and everything. And you know, so I basically was wearing a masks. And so being in the certification helped me to really process that taking that mask off and feeling comfortable about being transparent. Because you know, right now we’re at a time we’re talking about healing from trauma and sexual abuse is very common place, but people really, really don’t talk about that whole bat shame. And I’m from the state of Florida. So bikini body is is a way of life here. And so, you know, seeing Danny and how she moves through the world in summary, and the things that I learned in class has really helped boost my confidence in terms of talking about my own body issues. And although we really didn’t talk specifically about the aging body a lot, just the basics that we learn in process. It’s helped me move through that.

Heidi:
For me, it was actually an opportunity to add another layer to my business And I have another offer for women who may not struggle with their eating so much but with their changing body through becoming a mom or simply becoming older. And it’s, I feel like this is even more common than women struggling with food, which already is horrifying, common. But being able to offer support in this area specifically for women who may not really need my help so much with eating, but yeah, could use some support in viewing their bodies differently than society teaches teaches them, I find that incredibly valuable. And I’ve noticed how, since I took the course I changed the theme in my newsletters, and towards more how you feel about your body. And I’ve gotten a lot more responses from people, which was unusual, the more women replied, and were like, wow, you, you really speak to my heart, or I love reading your newsletters, they inspire me so much, and to help me look differently at my body. And I feel like this was probably the biggest push that gave me confidence to actually talk about this topic more when before I was kind of afraid to touch it. Because with eating, many women know that making peace with food might come with weight gain. But it’s an icky issue that you don’t really want to talk about. But having at this course now. And this certification gave me the confidence and also the kind of like the fire and passion to encourage women to start with their bodies first. And then let’s look at eating later, when we’ve clarified that really making peace with your body is the first step on the whole journey.

Danni:
Thank you for sharing you, you guys shared a lot about how you’re use this in your professional life. I’m super interested in learning. And somebody that has shared a little bit already about how you use this certification in your personal life. Have you seen some changes in your own body image? Have you been addressing your own inner critic, I would love to hear from each and every one of you about this.

Kimiya:
One of the best aspects of this certification for me was the opportunity that I come from with my image issues. I mean, the picture issues that I voluntary, take this client coach with summer and she helped me to see myself and I am so angry about my look or my body. And after that whenever I see my picture, and I’m not sure about it, or I have this backbone, body image thoughts in my head. I know how can I help myself? And it helped me a lot. I mean, it helped me not to ruin my spawn in the party. I mean, when I see my picture, or the next day, when I see my videos, I tell myself Kimiya you have fun yesterday, and that was it and don’t compare your body to anything else. And oh, my god, that was so helpful for me. Thank you for that.

Christine:
I agree, I think the exercises that you provide for us to be able to work with our clients are super helpful for us to do. And I found that in addition to that a lot of the sessions that we had, someone else might be sharing an issue and I or something that might come up for them or a client. And I’m thinking like, yeah, everything’s going well for me right now. And it just allows me to sit with something. And then all of a sudden, I’m unpacking something that’s going on with myself that I may not even be aware of. And I found the sessions to be super helpful, not just in learning to coach other people, but also just be a better coach for myself and to allow myself to take some time. I mean, coaches need coaches. So I looked at this opportunity to keep going with this cohort, ongoing past the certification as an opportunity for me to continue to not only get the support for my clients, but even what the last session, all of a sudden someone’s sharing something about something that’s going on with them and a client and it triggered something in me that I’m like, Oh, I’m feeling this, this and I don’t even know where it came from. It gave me an opportunity to really do some work on myself.

Danni:
I feel like on that day everybody was being super vulnerable. Like it was a good good class.

Heidi:
For Me it actually helped me in my view as are in my my own body image and seeing my kids and being confronted with different genetic setup that All bodies have, and noticing how being one child that has a more similar genetic built to me, which reminded me of what I looked like as a kid. And now being able to see the beauty in this rather than feeling the shame that I was made to feel when I was a child. And it really helped me in relaxing in my being a parent and taking the focus off feeling or I need to control or I need to maybe do something wrong if one child has a different size than the other. And rather, seeing this Yeah, with it with a grand perspective of bodies are genetically set up to be different. And it’s given me a lot of peace. And yeah, helped me feel actually get a different perspective on what my body as a child would have looked like. And just being able to see this differently and kind of heal my own. Yeah, the shame that I felt as a child and getting a different perspective on this now.

Summer:
Beautiful Arlisa, did you want to add some?

Arlisa:
Yeah, I would like to share with you like two main things, even though I, this training has impacted my life in so many ways. But one is like, looking at my daughter’s body, and just looking at it, and commenting way less than I used to uncommenting way less or talking about their bodies, way less than my parents used to comment about my sister and I, even though they were positive comments, there was too much emphasis and focus in our bodies. And then something that like a result of this training is the certification is I stopped dancing for 10 years ago. And then I started dancing again six months ago. And I was invited to be a part of a female team for about chapter. So when I was invited, oh, my God, all these body image talk in my head, like this charge went crazy. Like, there was no way they’re younger than me way thinner. And then I decided to participate. And I was in for shows with, like, with this costume, like, well, I decided to participate, listen to my judge, my internal judge, but also go past it. And I enjoyed it. And I now I’m part of this female team. And I really enjoy it. And I, my body is the size it is. And I did not go on a diet before the shows. I did not every time I was like, Okay, I need to lose weight. And then I were like this is this is my body. And then the stress before show, which was always so high. That was there. But it was minimal compared. So it has been amazing in my personal life. And one thing that you said summer, you said many things. But one thing that impacted very much by my brain was like, you ask the question about like, you said something like, do we have to be sexy? And that was No, I don’t have. We don’t have to not everybody has to be sexy. And that’s so liberating. I think the most important, most valuable things that I got from the certification is freedom. And that has impacted my life and also the people I work with. Incredible.

Summer:
Terry, do you want to add anything to this one?

Terri:
So I had a hysterectomy a couple of years ago, and it changed the shape of my stone again. So like I said, you know, as I got older, I finally started to really accept, you know, my body shape and having ample behind became popular and but not having a big big belly was important to me. I really put a big value on and after my hysterectomy, it totally changed the shape of my stomach. And one of the exercises that that you all taught us was the whole mirror of exercise. And so a part of my practice, I tell women look in the mirror every morning, kiss the mirror, tell yourself how beautiful and wonderful you are. But I realized after my hysterectomy and the scar and MS shape, that it left my belly that I had stopped looking in full mirror, you know I would no longer do that. So when we started, you started introducing to us those mirror exercises I realized it made me kind of beat become aware of the fact that I stopped looking in full length mirror so I always made sure From here uplifted, I always made sure my clothes look good, but there was no way I was gonna get my whole body naked, I just wasn’t gonna do it. So from the exercises and class, I started, you know, started looking into full length mirror. Again, when I’m in the bathroom naked. That was big. That was big, because I didn’t realize that it was actually also affecting how I move through the world in my marriage. It you know, all of a sudden, with this man that I have been with, like, on and off for my entire sexual life. I didn’t want him to see me naked anymore, that didn’t want to just have that level of vulnerability. And also miss Danny, oh, my God, oh, my God, that’s all I got. It’s just how you move through the world and body positivity. As a young woman, I need you to know that it influences how an older woman who is amply endowed moves through the world to I have heard so many of my girlfriends on to you. Because, you know, all of us, you know, our, our think all of us are thinking I don’t really have any really Benton brands. And so they’re all right now enamored and fascinated. So you know, you all have really influenced me personally in a number of unexpected ways.

Danni:
Thank you so much for sharing that period. It really feels good on the inside. Thank you.

Summer:
I just I didn’t realize how much of a profound effect this had on all of you personally. So it’s been so lovely to, to hear that, that piece of it.

Danni:
when you’re teaching, like it’s so hard, I hope they’re getting something out of it.

Summer:
Yeah, yeah. And when we focus more on like, how did this go with your clients? What come up for you with your clients that it’s making me realize, like how much of a personal integration is actually going on that we perhaps don’t always, you know, outside of the demonstrations, we don’t really like talk about it as much. So it’s really cool to see.

Danni:
Yeah, I was thinking about myself as a facilitator, like, I’ve been working on self care for almost two years with my therapist, but actually, like teaching self care, but this session for this cohort, I put a certification on what I’m talking about now. It makes me feel like I need to be accountable and like, really do it. Because like, how can you teach it? And obviously I struggle, I’m a real human being, but I feel like I need to be accountable to you on so I really try to, to practice it. So it what it feels like is that we’re all in this together.

Summer:
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So one of the last things we wanted to ask you all is just like if there was like one thing that you feel impacted you the most, it could either be like just an aspect of the training or the people in the group or something that you learned, just kind of you can kind of think of just like one thing that impacted you the most, and Heidi we can pop over to you first.

Heidi:
For me, it was well as a mission, the community of women who are on the same boat, and from all walks of life and age groups, as a team that was really helpful, kind of gave me like a home, which is also why I wanted to participate in the ongoing groups. But the other thing that really impacted me was going past on body positivity, too. Learn a difference and mind that this is not the end goal. The end goal is not for me to love, every roll on my stomach, and every jiggle. But to get to a point where my body is just my body, it’s just the tool that I’m living this day in and getting to the point where it’s where it doesn’t matter so much where it’s not the thing that defines me, which doesn’t mean that we all have to stop caring what we look like, but it kind of gives a layer of peace, where we don’t constantly fall short of loving the way we look. Even in this body, but it kind of just helps to eliminate the stress factor, if you will, to come to a peaceful understanding with yourself and just have your body be your body and sometimes you like the way it looks at sometimes you don’t and it’s one aspect of your life and it doesn’t have to be something that you’re completely enamored with all the time.

Danni:
Arlisa.

Arlisa:
something that really impacted me very much was Danny what you shared with us what you presented about the story like the history behind dieting, and it impacted me like I’m trying to live up to these guppies white Man from both before standards. So what I want to do in my life, and I want to share in my work is like living life in our own terms. So that’s expanded to, in our own bodies in our own sizes, and not trying to meet those standards who are so not related to me, in terms of my body, my productivity, like so many things. So that framework was so important to see my life, my clients lives, my daughter’s like, like do I want to fit into, I don’t, and I don’t want to push anybody to fit into that, more like, have share that that information and be able to choose. So thank you very much.

Kimiya:
At first, I just want to say that you both are so sophisticated to teach you a really good teacher, both of you. And as Elisa mentioned, that I think they have, it was the week five that we learned about fatphobia. And the history behind that this story about black people who were as a slave or take to the other lands and the body, their body became what like an exhibition, it was, it was so shocking to me. And then it helped me to tell this a story to convey this, this story to my clients. And then whenever they are mad about themselves about the facts about the fatness, they remember this story and they know oh my god, it’s not a good idea to think like that to to hate speech bodies, because it’s rooted in racism. And I think my life is before this 50. After which thank you for this story. And even I knew about the BMI. And this adult clip. I don’t I don’t I don’t know if I pronounced his name correctly. But the way that you put these two story together, and I saw the big picture that how was the history, and now we are here with lots of fad diets, and all of them are convincing us that it’s the lightest buy. And it’s for you to be more healthier. But no, it was the story of the racism. I love that to learn about this. Thank you.

Danni:
Thank you.

Christine:
I agree with what a lot of people were saying I have so many like aha moments throughout the course. And as a fitness professional, I’ll share that for me, I know how to teach, I know how to teach a fitness class. And I teach a lot of fitness professionals around the world because I have a fitness education company, as well. And it’s so different than coaching. So the having that aspect of this course was huge for me. But in particular, the measurement system, like the benchmark that we learned was super helpful, not just in coaching clients on body image, but I was able to take the kind of the questions that you ask people because in fitness we tend to do well we not me, the all the fitness, the toxic fitness industry tends to when you go into a gym, you weigh and measure someone and that’s like your benchmark for when you start out. And then the goal is to change that changes measurements. But that’s not what I do at the fitness studio. So the questionnaire, the survey that we use in the coaching program, I found super helpful for my everyday clients to be able to have a starting point for how they feel not just about their body, but doing some other questions about how often they work out and how they feel about working out. And it’s been huge to have that after a period of time to be able to see progress, because we tend to only look at progress as the visual of like, what, what a body looks like, instead of feeling like what we actually feel inside, it’s hard to measure that. So now with that tool, it’s really easy for my clients to really see the changes that are happening inside.

Terri:
Listen, I’m gonna tell you the exercise with the should haves would have could haves, I found out I thought I was very well versed in that and that that was some things that I have done and I have been promoting for you know, with my clients and and you know, on my social circle and stuff, but it was I don’t know if it wasn’t because we were talking in the context of body image because we were talking in the comp plan, whatever. I can’t even remember what lesson it was. But for that exercise, I I had to go back several times. Because, you know, I realized that I really, I really wasn’t doing a good job process that should have and could have said, What have I wish I would have done? You know, and that even though outwardly in fact, it seemed like I really was doing that work, those exercises, opened my eyes where I was, I wasn’t doing the work, I was kind of just, you know, saying the things. But I really wasn’t taking the deep dive and looking at, you know, so how would I feel? I mean, what would have been the impact? If I would have done it? How would it have benefited me, and looking at how I’ve benefited from not doing it, I didn’t do it. Right, I should have done something, but I didn’t do. So I made it through. And really just taking a look at the fact that even despite the fact that I didn’t do something that I really wish I would have had the opportunity to do, I made it through, I made it over to the next side. And that just it was just powerful. It just really was probable. Like I said, a lot of this class again, I want to repeat what everyone else has been saying, Danni and Summer, you are excellent teachers in this because a lot of the things that I thought that I had been doing, and doing well, I really, really have to admit to myself that, you know, I was just doing it surface, I wasn’t taking the deep dive. And then what that also made me notice that I wasn’t encouraging my clients and the women who come to me to take a deep breath. And so there’s even been exercises that I’ve done. My husband is like, Oh God, what are we doing tonight? This is the discussion, okay? You need to take a dig deeper, look at your should haves. Thank you.

Danni:
That is so funny and cute at the same time. So before we head out, we want to make sure that each and every one of you get a chance to promote your social media and your websites and business. So we’re going to just go around and give our rapid response Terri, we want to start off with you tell us where folks can find you.

Terri:
On Instagram and Facebook. I’m Terri Bailey writes, and Terri Bailey chats. ChATS. And you can find me also at Terri Bailey. chats.com.

Danni:
Alright, and as Te R i That’s right. Arlisa.

Arlisa:
Arlisa Lifshitz on Facebook.

Danni:
Right. I’m gonna spell it out for y’all. Arlisa and last name LIFFSHITV.

Unknown Speaker 37:50
Yes, Arlisa Lifshitz on Facebook.

Danni:
All right. Got it. Thank you, Arlisa. What about you, Kimiya.

Kimiya:
On Instagram, I’m underline Kimmy yummy. And you can also find me in Intuitive Eating website, when there is a Intuitive Eating counselor, or you can put my name Kimia tyranny and you will find all of my site address or my Instagram on on Instagram, I have another page. It’s a low fat land. It’s about this comic stories that I am designing for my last project in university. So you can read the stories there. And oh, I have a podcast named Kimi AMI as well. It’s like okay, I m IYKI. M I N yami is like yummy. As an English. It’s yum, yum.

Danni:
Perfect. Thank you, Kimiya, Christine.

Christine:
So I won’t dare have you spell my last name. I’ll just tell people go to my website, pop fit studio.com. And I have a podcast as well breaking body biases.com all of my social media handles are there. And if you’re ever in the Philadelphia area, I hope that you will come visit my studio. Because we just have a fun time here.

Danni:
Thank you. And last but not least, Heidi.

Heidi:
Yeah, that’s interesting. Because I’m working in German. So my website name is German. And it will only be useful for anyone who’s understanding German. So I will just say it that way. And if there are any German listeners, they will find me under advisement Essen. And that’s the same handle on Instagram and Facebook, but I’m not very active there. Yeah, Facebook. Not nice, but the website will lead will leading you to me.

Danni:
Thank you so much, everybody.

Summer:
Yeah, this has been so amazing. We really appreciate you all taking the time to be here. We will link to all of your websites and all of your information in the show notes for this episode. It is going to be episode number 269. So if you go to summer innanen.com forward slash 269 You’ll be able to find everybody’s info. Before we wrap it up here. Is there anything that anyone felt like they needed to say and didn’t get a chance to say? Okay, thank you. Thank you all so much for being here. It was so lovely to catch up with you. We’ll see you again soon.

Danni:
We’ll wait take one more picture. Wait, one more picture. Okay, cuz that cuz I didn’t get one. Okay. All right, she’s okay, that’s okay. Thank you, everybody.

Summer:
That was amazing to hear how impactful this was on everyone. Personally, you know, I really didn’t realize how much of an impact it had on everybody personally, as well as professionally and I’m so happy to see so many amazing practitioners out there in the world. You can find the links and resources mentioned at summer innanen.com forward slash 269. Get all the information about the body image coach certification program at Body Image coach certification.com enrollment is open right now for the fall 2023 cohort, you can always just pop over to the website and get her name on the waitlist if we’re not if you’re listening to this like six months from now, and it’s a different cohort just always head over to the website you’ll see the latest details on what’s happening when the next cohort is going live when the enrollment period is and you can always put your name on the waitlist or if you want to check it out. Now go enroll now. And if you are curious about it, but not ready and you just want to get more information about what this is like or how to help clients with body image then get my free body image coaching roadmap for professionals at summer innanen.com forward slash roadmap. Thank you so much for being here. today. I will talk to you soon Roy Cohn I’m Summer Innanen. And I want to thank you for listening today. You can follow me on Instagram and Facebook at summer Innanen. And if you haven’t yet, go to Apple podcasts search eat the rules and subscribe rate and review this show. I would be so grateful. Until next time, rock on.